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trailer help
« on: June 09, 2018, 10:59:42 PM »
hey all

so im thinking of doing a trailer project however I have information overload and struggling here. my inspiration is the patriot campers x1 trailer.
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whats the best route for a project.. ideally looking at 1500kg max mass but around 700kg built

im also considering going back to jeep but same questions... how do I fit a Toyota or jeep wheel to a trailer hub as they seem 4 bolts mainly.

do we have the independent spring and shock style suspensions for trailers here? or what would be the best route if not.

if I buy a 2nd hand trailer, can I strip if down to the frame and rebuild the structure without any tests at the iva?

what are the best ways to balance and keep a trailer towing well and stable.

can we get articulating couplings here? I see in Australia they have one that can articulate up and down quite extensively.


thanks all, sorry again just got brain overload today reading it all.

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Re: trailer help
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2018, 04:20:15 PM »
I have been looking into it as well

First of all it would be alot easier to start with something like a safe key trailer or a raiper trailer as a base, you can pick them up on auction site or companies that specialise military surplus vehicles this would get you around the registration problem other then making sure the lights are civilian compliant

As for tow hitch, the only one in the UK that I have seen that is 100% definitely legal is the conventional 50mm ball coupling, on brakes trailers they can twist so articulation is covered but they are limited in pitch angles but unless your expecting your trailer to come with you on really technical trails then you should be ok

NATO style hitches that the sankey come with are abit of a grey area, should poeple run them some poeple don't, I have heard reports they are not legal for civilian use and that in the event of an accident your insurance might not pay out if your not running an approved hitch

The aussy style pin hitches are in the same boat as NATO hitch's I believe



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Re: trailer help
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2018, 05:53:21 PM »
iv managed find a company that do rolling chassis with 1400kg payload, but that's 1375+vat however does provide a spanking new chassis and covers the legal aspect, not sure on the approx. price of 2nd hand sankeys, seen some large variations in prices on fleabay.

think i found the info on the hubs, so might be covered there as seems they can be swapped quite easily, again the above trailer would cover that also.

is the limit on hitch heights a legal requirement? have read its something like 450mm which doesnt seem that high for a vehicle possible running 33's and the trailer also on 33's.

will look into the safe key one also, on checking that, was that a typo and u meant sankey?

many thanks
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Re: trailer help
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2018, 05:57:29 PM »
I have heard of poeple picking up Sankeys that the tubs are rotten but the chassis is solid for between £300-£500

Never come across the legal height of a hitch just the type of hitch used

Are these rolling chassis off road capable?

£1700 seams abit steep for a chassis and an axle though... You can get car trailers around that price

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Re: trailer help
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2018, 06:21:19 PM »
sorry jay, price is 1375+vat. read it wrong.  the only issue would prob needing change the suspension. so again looking better off going ex-military, seen another brand of trailer on auction.. called pennman. is there an adapter for nato to ball type hitches? thinking for collection would I need change my end or the trailer coupling before collecting
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Re: trailer help
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2018, 07:12:47 PM »
Not conversation that I know off... I am planning on just bolting on a new coupling to convert it

One way would be to borrow a car trailer and get it back that way

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